the biggest help when mitt romney turned in a debate performance next week. they say young people. they understand the energy, the enthusiasm is down from the historymaking year in 2008. if they can get those votes in the bank early, all the better. >> if they can get the base to turn out, the republican base, the democratic party base, but the undecided, the independents, i take it, correct me if i'm wrong, john. they want to see the three presidential debates, the one vice presidential debate and then they'll make up their mind. >> exactly right. because imagine if you were somebody who was swayed by a tv ad last night or something you saw in the news over the past couple days. you cast that ballot today and there is a big moment in the debate and you change your mind, too late to get it back. if you're undecided, you're likely to wait. the people were standing in line for both parties. you'll find obama voters in line those are people who are hard core and with their person, no matter what. republicans say in the end, as long as they get their base out, it doesn't matter if they